Showing posts with label row. Show all posts
Showing posts with label row. Show all posts

Monday, March 26, 2012

MD5 Hashing rows?

I'm trying to implement some sort of security checking against database
modification. I'm thinking to store a list with Hash values for row sets.
i.e.
[pseudocode]
byte[] returnHash = MD5Hash( SELECT stuff FROM database WHERE junk )
[/pseudocode]
Is there a way to do an MD5 hash or equivilent without outputting the result
to a file and just hashing the file?
Is there a better way how to achieve the same goal?
Any comments appreciated. Thanks for your time!
-EdgarsEdgars Klepers wrote:
> I'm trying to implement some sort of security checking against database
> modification. I'm thinking to store a list with Hash values for row sets
.
> i.e.
> [pseudocode]
> byte[] returnHash = MD5Hash( SELECT stuff FROM database WHERE junk )
> [/pseudocode]
> Is there a way to do an MD5 hash or equivilent without outputting the resu
lt
> to a file and just hashing the file?
> Is there a better way how to achieve the same goal?
> Any comments appreciated. Thanks for your time!
> -Edgars
In SQL Server 2005 you could use the HashBytes function.
In earlier versions I think you'll have to use the .NET crypto classes
or Microsoft's COM crypto API. That means client side code or a call to
external code from SQL Server. Maybe you could write an extended proc
to do it (would require C++).
SQL Server 2000 has the CHECKSUM / BINARY_CHECKSUM functions but these
are just simple checksums not strong hashes.
David Portas
SQL Server MVP
--|||If you're using SQL Server 2000, there is an extended stored procedure
for MD5 hashing (and it's quick)
http://www.codeproject.com/database/xp_md5.asp|||markc600@.hotmail.com wrote:
> If you're using SQL Server 2000, there is an extended stored procedure
> for MD5 hashing (and it's quick)
> http://www.codeproject.com/database/xp_md5.asp
That's . Thanks for the link.
David Portas
SQL Server MVP
--|||I did come across that. How would one put in an entire row, or more
importantly an entire row set into that function to hash?
"markc600@.hotmail.com" wrote:

> If you're using SQL Server 2000, there is an extended stored procedure
> for MD5 hashing (and it's quick)
> http://www.codeproject.com/database/xp_md5.asp
>|||David Portas (REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dportas@.acm.org) writes:
> In SQL Server 2005 you could use the HashBytes function.
Beware that in SQL 2005 RTM, HashBytes returns a random value if you pass it
a NULL value. SQL Server MVP Steve Kass has filed bug about it, and the
bug has been acknolweged as fixed, although it is unknown what result
hasbytes(NULL) yields after the fix.
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@.sommarskog.se
Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...oads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodin...ions/books.mspx|||Exactly how will depend upon your business requirements.
At the simplest level you can concatenate the relevant columns
select dbo.fn_md5( coalesce(colA,'') + coalesce(colB,'') )
from sometable
However, this may give you unexpected collisions in that if you have
a row with, for example, colA='X' and colB='YZ' and another row with
colA='XY' and colB='Z'. It also doesn't distinguish NULLs from empty
strings.
This may be acceptable to you though.
Also consider folding all character data to upper case and
removing leading/trailing spaces.
Lots of options, you decide.
Regards.

Monday, March 19, 2012

maximum row size.. 8060 bytes ?

I got a warning like this.
Warning: The table 'tbSOTransHeader' has been created but
its maximum row size (9911) exceeds the maximum number of
bytes per row (8060). INSERT or UPDATE of a row in this
table will fail if the resulting row length exceeds 8060
bytes.
My questions are :
1. Is it true max row size is 8060 bytes ?
2. Can we make it larger ?
Thanks.Yes the max amount of actual data in the row can only be 8060. You can
create a table, view etc larger than that with variable length columns as
long as when populated they don't total more than that. NO you can't make
it larger.
--
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"kresna rudy kurniawan" <kresnark@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:082a01c3728f$48917d50$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> I got a warning like this.
> Warning: The table 'tbSOTransHeader' has been created but
> its maximum row size (9911) exceeds the maximum number of
> bytes per row (8060). INSERT or UPDATE of a row in this
> table will fail if the resulting row length exceeds 8060
> bytes.
> My questions are :
> 1. Is it true max row size is 8060 bytes ?
> 2. Can we make it larger ?
> Thanks.
>|||Is there a function or stored procedure in T-sql to
calculate bytes in a row ?
thx.
>--Original Message--
>Yes the max amount of actual data in the row can only be
8060. You can
>create a table, view etc larger than that with variable
length columns as
>long as when populated they don't total more than that.
NO you can't make
>it larger.
>--
>Andrew J. Kelly
>SQL Server MVP
>
>"kresna rudy kurniawan" <kresnark@.yahoo.com> wrote in
message
>news:082a01c3728f$48917d50$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
>> I got a warning like this.
>> Warning: The table 'tbSOTransHeader' has been created
but
>> its maximum row size (9911) exceeds the maximum number
of
>> bytes per row (8060). INSERT or UPDATE of a row in this
>> table will fail if the resulting row length exceeds 8060
>> bytes.
>> My questions are :
>> 1. Is it true max row size is 8060 bytes ?
>> 2. Can we make it larger ?
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>.
>|||use datalength.
ex: select datalength(col1) + datalength(col2) ... from <table>
--
-Vishal
kresna rudy kurniawan <kresnark@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:163c01c37293$55393f80$a601280a@.phx.gbl...
> Is there a function or stored procedure in T-sql to
> calculate bytes in a row ?
> thx.
>
> >--Original Message--
> >Yes the max amount of actual data in the row can only be
> 8060. You can
> >create a table, view etc larger than that with variable
> length columns as
> >long as when populated they don't total more than that.
> NO you can't make
> >it larger.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Andrew J. Kelly
> >SQL Server MVP
> >
> >
> >"kresna rudy kurniawan" <kresnark@.yahoo.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:082a01c3728f$48917d50$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> >> I got a warning like this.
> >>
> >> Warning: The table 'tbSOTransHeader' has been created
> but
> >> its maximum row size (9911) exceeds the maximum number
> of
> >> bytes per row (8060). INSERT or UPDATE of a row in this
> >> table will fail if the resulting row length exceeds 8060
> >> bytes.
> >>
> >> My questions are :
> >>
> >> 1. Is it true max row size is 8060 bytes ?
> >> 2. Can we make it larger ?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >|||kresna rudy kurniawan wrote:
> I got a warning like this.
> Warning: The table 'tbSOTransHeader' has been created but
> its maximum row size (9911) exceeds the maximum number of
> bytes per row (8060). INSERT or UPDATE of a row in this
> table will fail if the resulting row length exceeds 8060
> bytes.
> My questions are :
> 1. Is it true max row size is 8060 bytes ?
> 2. Can we make it larger ?
> Thanks.
All columns of the row have to fit in the page (maximum 8060 bytes),
except for data types text, ntext and image. For those data types, only
16 bytes (for each text/ntext/image column) are needed in the page that
stores the row.
So if the current data does not fit the page, it might be an option to
change large char, nchar, varchar or nvarchar columns to text or ntext.
Hope this helps,
Gert-Jan

maximum row size problem

Hi,
I've got a table in a database [columns: int, int, int, nvarchar(100), nvarchar(200), nvarchar(500), nvarchar(4000) ]

The problem I have is that when I try to insert a record, sqlserver is returning "Cannot create a row of size 9629 which is greater than the allowable maximum of 8060."

I had a search before posting here and best answer I could find was to alter maxlen in sysindexes - however, I'm far from being an expert on sqlserver so I dont really want to just blindly alter things and find I screw something up.

Any ideas on how to solve this?

Thanksnvarchar(4000)? Why? Why not an NTEXT?

NTEXT can be up to 2gb, and does NOT count against the limit.

Otherwise you can NOT change this limit. 8060 is a hardcoded limit.|||ok, i'll try that, thanks

Maximum Row Size Limitation

Is the maximum row size per table really limited to
8K bytes? Or is this the internal organization of SQL
data structures. I have imported a legacy table that
wound up having over 100 columns that came in as
NVARCHAR(255) or roughly 25K + in size. Any comments?
ThanksIt will allow you to create the object with the warning something as
The table % has been created but its maximum row size (%) exceeds the
maximum number of bytes per row (8060)
Ex:
create table test_size
(i1 nvarchar(255),
i2 nvarchar(255),
i3 nvarchar(255),
i4 nvarchar(255),
i6 nvarchar(255),
i8 nvarchar(255),
i9 nvarchar(255),
i10 nvarchar(255),
i11 nvarchar(255),
i12 nvarchar(255),
i14 nvarchar(255),
i19 nvarchar(255),
i20 nvarchar(255),
i21 nvarchar(255),
i22 nvarchar(255),
i23 nvarchar(255),
i24 nvarchar(255),
i30 nvarchar(255),
i31 nvarchar(255),
i32 nvarchar(255),
i33 nvarchar(255))
This is because you are using nvarchar datatype which is variable length
data type. Hence it will give you
error at runtime if actual data that you are going to insert goes beyond
8060 bytes. Also point to be noted
that nvarchar table 2 bytes to store a single character.
So SQL server is happy to create a table though a table crosses limit of
8060 bytes per row so far you use
variable data type like varchar/nvarchar but it will throw you an error
while inserting/updating data if actual
row size that a row will occupy goes beyond this limit.
--
-Vishal
"wringland" <bill@.tiati.com> wrote in message
news:001001c34fa3$3447a540$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> Is the maximum row size per table really limited to
> 8K bytes? Or is this the internal organization of SQL
> data structures. I have imported a legacy table that
> wound up having over 100 columns that came in as
> NVARCHAR(255) or roughly 25K + in size. Any comments?
> Thanks|||And Dinesh is referring to the "hard" limit of the row size. When you have
varchar columns, you need to figure in the "soft" factor: the actual limit
is applied to the actual size of content. If you have 100 nvarchar(255)
columns and each column has only 1 character in it, the row size would be
(100 (columns) x 1 (character each column) x 2 (for Nvarchar) + 9 (row
overhead) ) = 209 bytes.
"Dinesh.T.K" <tkdinesh@.nospam.mail.tkdinesh.com> wrote in message
news:OsEUMR6TDHA.3700@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Bill,
> The maximum row size is 8060 bytes except for blob data types as TEXT ,
> IMAGE etc.That means your 25K table wont fit in.Moreover, you are using
the
> unicode datatype, NVARCHAR, which itself take twice as much storage space
as
> non-unicode data types.
> --
> Dinesh.
> SQL Server FAQ at
> http://www.tkdinesh.com
> "wringland" <bill@.tiati.com> wrote in message
> news:001001c34fa3$3447a540$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> > Is the maximum row size per table really limited to
> > 8K bytes? Or is this the internal organization of SQL
> > data structures. I have imported a legacy table that
> > wound up having over 100 columns that came in as
> > NVARCHAR(255) or roughly 25K + in size. Any comments?
> >
> > Thanks
>|||Thanks for the reply. Can you perhaps explain why the
table was imported into SQL and the table design show the
proper format and size for the columns. All does seem to
be well with the data.
Thanks
>--Original Message--
>Bill,
>The maximum row size is 8060 bytes except for blob data
types as TEXT ,
>IMAGE etc.That means your 25K table wont fit in.Moreover,
you are using the
>unicode datatype, NVARCHAR, which itself take twice as
much storage space as
>non-unicode data types.
>--
>Dinesh.
>SQL Server FAQ at
>http://www.tkdinesh.com
>"wringland" <bill@.tiati.com> wrote in message
>news:001001c34fa3$3447a540$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
>> Is the maximum row size per table really limited to
>> 8K bytes? Or is this the internal organization of SQL
>> data structures. I have imported a legacy table that
>> wound up having over 100 columns that came in as
>> NVARCHAR(255) or roughly 25K + in size. Any comments?
>> Thanks
>
>.
>|||> Thanks for the reply. Can you perhaps explain why the
> table was imported into SQL and the table design show the
> proper format and size for the columns. All does seem to
> be well with the data.
Because the data is not "full" - you will only get an error if you attempt
to put more than 8,060 bytes of *actual data* into the table. I am guessing
that many of your nvarchar(255) columns are NULL or blank.|||Bill,
As mentioned in other posts, SQL server will let you create the table with a
warning about data truncation.While inserting data, the moment a particular
rowsize exceeds 8060, the rest would be truncated and you wouldnt even
know.Means while querying the table, you may be looking at incomplete and
thus false data.
Dinesh.
SQL Server FAQ at
http://www.tkdinesh.com
"wringland" <bill@.tiati.com> wrote in message
news:009201c34fa7$6db8dbb0$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the reply. Can you perhaps explain why the
> table was imported into SQL and the table design show the
> proper format and size for the columns. All does seem to
> be well with the data.
> Thanks
> >--Original Message--
> >Bill,
> >
> >The maximum row size is 8060 bytes except for blob data
> types as TEXT ,
> >IMAGE etc.That means your 25K table wont fit in.Moreover,
> you are using the
> >unicode datatype, NVARCHAR, which itself take twice as
> much storage space as
> >non-unicode data types.
> >
> >--
> >Dinesh.
> >SQL Server FAQ at
> >http://www.tkdinesh.com
> >
> >"wringland" <bill@.tiati.com> wrote in message
> >news:001001c34fa3$3447a540$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> >> Is the maximum row size per table really limited to
> >> 8K bytes? Or is this the internal organization of SQL
> >> data structures. I have imported a legacy table that
> >> wound up having over 100 columns that came in as
> >> NVARCHAR(255) or roughly 25K + in size. Any comments?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >
> >
> >.
> >|||> As mentioned in other posts, SQL server will let you create the table with
a
> warning about data truncation.While inserting data, the moment a
particular
> rowsize exceeds 8060, the rest would be truncated and you wouldnt even
> know.
Actually in this case, wouldn't you get the "string or binary data would be
truncated" error message?|||I have five fields each varchar(5000) and about
8 other columns between 50 and 100 bytes each.
so in answer to your question, none is > 8060.
>--Original Message--
>What is your current table structure? Are there one or
two columns forcing
>it beyond 8,060, or do you have 100 columns that are 255
characters?
>
>
>"Alice" <mygth@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:056401c34fce$de321fb0$a101280a@.phx.gbl...
>> I am running into similar situation,
>> I am creating new table with rowsize > 8060,
>> my rowsize is 25000, is there any way by which
>> I can increase the rowsize to this limit?
>> I read on microsoft site that this limiation existed
>> on 6.5 and u.s. pack 2 fixed it. Any ideas?
>> BTW, I am on Sql 7.
>
>.
>|||Alice,
>> Then why do they say US patch 4 fixes it for sql 6.5?
What article are you talking about?
Thanks!
Dinesh.
SQL Server FAQ at
http://www.tkdinesh.com
"Alice" <mygth@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:04a101c34fda$1dcc50e0$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> well, I was thinking on those lines, but I am surprised
> that we cannot have > 8060 characters in a row.
> Then why do they say US patch 4 fixes it for sql 6.5?
> unless I am mistaken.
> >--Original Message--
> >> I have five fields each varchar(5000) and about
> >> 8 other columns between 50 and 100 bytes each.
> >>
> >> so in answer to your question, none is > 8060.
> >
> >If you expect to ever fill more than 8,060 characters
> across the row, then
> >you're going to have to make a decision. You could use
> text columns, or you
> >could put each varchar(5000) in its own table with a
> foreign key to this
> >tables pk. Are you expecting to use all 5000 characters
> in any row/column
> >combination? If not, you might consider decreasing the
> size to reduce the
> >number of columns you'll have to store off-row.
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Maximum Row Size in SQL Server 2000

Using this code:
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
[ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
[COMMENT1] [varchar] (8000) NULL ,
[COMMENT2] [varchar] (8000) NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO
I get the error: Warning: The table 'test' has been created but its maximum
row size (16029) exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060).
However, I can create a table with smaller field lengths:
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
[ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
[COMMENT1] [varchar] (10) NULL ,
[COMMENT2] [varchar] (10) NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO
I can then alter the field lengths in Enterprise Manager back to 8000 and
not get the error. I also notice I can import data from a text file and a
table will be created with numerous varchar fields that are each 8000 in
size. Why cannot I create the table with multiple 8000 length fields but SQ
L
Server allows me to modify an existing table or import into a table that has
multiple 8000 length fields?
Thank you.Hi,
like you said, you get a "Warning" no error. SQL Server just wants to
keep you informed that the data *might* be truncated, if you insert
more than 8000 characters, but the table *will* be created.
HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
http://www.sqlserver2005.de
--|||The warning you get is only a warning. The table is still created. Read the
warning text carefully.
The table is created, but if you , for a row, try to have > 8060 bytes (when
you do INSERT or
UPDATE), then that operation will fail.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Brian P" <BrianP@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7F71DB7B-6F5E-4ABC-90AA-A988691D095A@.microsoft.com...
> Using this code:
> CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
> [ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
> [COMMENT1] [varchar] (8000) NULL ,
> [COMMENT2] [varchar] (8000) NULL
> ) ON [PRIMARY]
> GO
> I get the error: Warning: The table 'test' has been created but its maximu
m
> row size (16029) exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060).
> However, I can create a table with smaller field lengths:
> CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
> [ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
> [COMMENT1] [varchar] (10) NULL ,
> [COMMENT2] [varchar] (10) NULL
> ) ON [PRIMARY]
> GO
> I can then alter the field lengths in Enterprise Manager back to 8000 and
> not get the error. I also notice I can import data from a text file and a
> table will be created with numerous varchar fields that are each 8000 in
> size. Why cannot I create the table with multiple 8000 length fields but
SQL
> Server allows me to modify an existing table or import into a table that h
as
> multiple 8000 length fields?
> Thank you.
>
>
>|||Thank you for the information. So I can have a table with numerous varchar
8000 fields and I'm ok as long as a single inserted row does not contain mor
e
than 8060 characters. Is this correct?
"Tibor Karaszi" wrote:

> The warning you get is only a warning. The table is still created. Read th
e warning text carefully.
> The table is created, but if you , for a row, try to have > 8060 bytes (wh
en you do INSERT or
> UPDATE), then that operation will fail.
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>
> "Brian P" <BrianP@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7F71DB7B-6F5E-4ABC-90AA-A988691D095A@.microsoft.com...
>
>|||Try it :
INSERT INTO TEST VALUES (REPLICATE('*', 80000), REPLICATE('*', 44))
A +
Brian P a écrit :[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thank you for the information. So I can have a table with numerous varcha
r
> 8000 fields and I'm ok as long as a single inserted row does not contain m
ore
> than 8060 characters. Is this correct?
> "Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
>
Frédéric BROUARD, MVP SQL Server, expert bases de données et langage SQL
Le site sur le langage SQL et les SGBDR : http://sqlpro.developpez.com
Audit, conseil, expertise, formation, modélisation, tuning, optimisation
********************* http://www.datasapiens.com ***********************|||Correct. And, btw, this restriction has been removed in SQL Server 2005 ("pa
ge overflow").
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Brian P" <BrianP@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4AA95B81-5246-470E-A270-11810106F346@.microsoft.com...
> Thank you for the information. So I can have a table with numerous varcha
r
> 8000 fields and I'm ok as long as a single inserted row does not contain m
ore
> than 8060 characters. Is this correct?
>|||Brian
But be aware that SQL Server 2005 row_overflow data only applies to variable
length fields.
You cannot have multiple char(8000) columns, for example.
HTH
Kalen Delaney, SQL Server MVP
www.solidqualitylearning.com
"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:ecx6jdYXGHA.4132@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Correct. And, btw, this restriction has been removed in SQL Server 2005
> ("page overflow").
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
> Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
>
> "Brian P" <BrianP@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4AA95B81-5246-470E-A270-11810106F346@.microsoft.com...|||Thanks everyone for the good information. I appreciate the feedback.
Brian
"Kalen Delaney" wrote:

> Brian
> But be aware that SQL Server 2005 row_overflow data only applies to variab
le
> length fields.
> You cannot have multiple char(8000) columns, for example.
> --
> HTH
> Kalen Delaney, SQL Server MVP
> www.solidqualitylearning.com
>
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote i
n
> message news:ecx6jdYXGHA.4132@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>

Maximum Row Size in SQL Server 2000

Using this code:
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
[ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
[COMMENT1] [varchar] (8000) NULL ,
[COMMENT2] [varchar] (8000) NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO
I get the error: Warning: The table 'test' has been created but its maximum
row size (16029) exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060).
However, I can create a table with smaller field lengths:
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
[ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
[COMMENT1] [varchar] (10) NULL ,
[COMMENT2] [varchar] (10) NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO
I can then alter the field lengths in Enterprise Manager back to 8000 and
not get the error. I also notice I can import data from a text file and a
table will be created with numerous varchar fields that are each 8000 in
size. Why cannot I create the table with multiple 8000 length fields but SQL
Server allows me to modify an existing table or import into a table that has
multiple 8000 length fields?
Thank you.Hi,
like you said, you get a "Warning" no error. SQL Server just wants to
keep you informed that the data *might* be truncated, if you insert
more than 8000 characters, but the table *will* be created.
HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
--
http://www.sqlserver2005.de
--|||The warning you get is only a warning. The table is still created. Read the warning text carefully.
The table is created, but if you , for a row, try to have > 8060 bytes (when you do INSERT or
UPDATE), then that operation will fail.
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"Brian P" <BrianP@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7F71DB7B-6F5E-4ABC-90AA-A988691D095A@.microsoft.com...
> Using this code:
> CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
> [ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
> [COMMENT1] [varchar] (8000) NULL ,
> [COMMENT2] [varchar] (8000) NULL
> ) ON [PRIMARY]
> GO
> I get the error: Warning: The table 'test' has been created but its maximum
> row size (16029) exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060).
> However, I can create a table with smaller field lengths:
> CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
> [ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
> [COMMENT1] [varchar] (10) NULL ,
> [COMMENT2] [varchar] (10) NULL
> ) ON [PRIMARY]
> GO
> I can then alter the field lengths in Enterprise Manager back to 8000 and
> not get the error. I also notice I can import data from a text file and a
> table will be created with numerous varchar fields that are each 8000 in
> size. Why cannot I create the table with multiple 8000 length fields but SQL
> Server allows me to modify an existing table or import into a table that has
> multiple 8000 length fields?
> Thank you.
>
>
>|||Thank you for the information. So I can have a table with numerous varchar
8000 fields and I'm ok as long as a single inserted row does not contain more
than 8060 characters. Is this correct?
"Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
> The warning you get is only a warning. The table is still created. Read the warning text carefully.
> The table is created, but if you , for a row, try to have > 8060 bytes (when you do INSERT or
> UPDATE), then that operation will fail.
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>
> "Brian P" <BrianP@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7F71DB7B-6F5E-4ABC-90AA-A988691D095A@.microsoft.com...
> > Using this code:
> >
> > CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
> > [ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
> > [COMMENT1] [varchar] (8000) NULL ,
> > [COMMENT2] [varchar] (8000) NULL
> > ) ON [PRIMARY]
> > GO
> >
> > I get the error: Warning: The table 'test' has been created but its maximum
> > row size (16029) exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060).
> >
> > However, I can create a table with smaller field lengths:
> >
> > CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
> > [ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
> > [COMMENT1] [varchar] (10) NULL ,
> > [COMMENT2] [varchar] (10) NULL
> > ) ON [PRIMARY]
> > GO
> >
> > I can then alter the field lengths in Enterprise Manager back to 8000 and
> > not get the error. I also notice I can import data from a text file and a
> > table will be created with numerous varchar fields that are each 8000 in
> > size. Why cannot I create the table with multiple 8000 length fields but SQL
> > Server allows me to modify an existing table or import into a table that has
> > multiple 8000 length fields?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>|||Try it :
INSERT INTO TEST VALUES (REPLICATE('*', 80000), REPLICATE('*', 44))
A +
Brian P a écrit :
> Thank you for the information. So I can have a table with numerous varchar
> 8000 fields and I'm ok as long as a single inserted row does not contain more
> than 8060 characters. Is this correct?
> "Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
>> The warning you get is only a warning. The table is still created. Read the warning text carefully.
>> The table is created, but if you , for a row, try to have > 8060 bytes (when you do INSERT or
>> UPDATE), then that operation will fail.
>> --
>> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
>> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
>> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
>>
>> "Brian P" <BrianP@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7F71DB7B-6F5E-4ABC-90AA-A988691D095A@.microsoft.com...
>> Using this code:
>> CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
>> [ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
>> [COMMENT1] [varchar] (8000) NULL ,
>> [COMMENT2] [varchar] (8000) NULL
>> ) ON [PRIMARY]
>> GO
>> I get the error: Warning: The table 'test' has been created but its maximum
>> row size (16029) exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060).
>> However, I can create a table with smaller field lengths:
>> CREATE TABLE [dbo].[test] (
>> [ID] [int] IDENTITY (1, 1) NOT NULL ,
>> [COMMENT1] [varchar] (10) NULL ,
>> [COMMENT2] [varchar] (10) NULL
>> ) ON [PRIMARY]
>> GO
>> I can then alter the field lengths in Enterprise Manager back to 8000 and
>> not get the error. I also notice I can import data from a text file and a
>> table will be created with numerous varchar fields that are each 8000 in
>> size. Why cannot I create the table with multiple 8000 length fields but SQL
>> Server allows me to modify an existing table or import into a table that has
>> multiple 8000 length fields?
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
Frédéric BROUARD, MVP SQL Server, expert bases de données et langage SQL
Le site sur le langage SQL et les SGBDR : http://sqlpro.developpez.com
Audit, conseil, expertise, formation, modélisation, tuning, optimisation
********************* http://www.datasapiens.com ***********************|||Correct. And, btw, this restriction has been removed in SQL Server 2005 ("page overflow").
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Brian P" <BrianP@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4AA95B81-5246-470E-A270-11810106F346@.microsoft.com...
> Thank you for the information. So I can have a table with numerous varchar
> 8000 fields and I'm ok as long as a single inserted row does not contain more
> than 8060 characters. Is this correct?
>|||Brian
But be aware that SQL Server 2005 row_overflow data only applies to variable
length fields.
You cannot have multiple char(8000) columns, for example.
--
HTH
Kalen Delaney, SQL Server MVP
www.solidqualitylearning.com
"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:ecx6jdYXGHA.4132@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Correct. And, btw, this restriction has been removed in SQL Server 2005
> ("page overflow").
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
> Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
>
> "Brian P" <BrianP@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4AA95B81-5246-470E-A270-11810106F346@.microsoft.com...
>> Thank you for the information. So I can have a table with numerous
>> varchar
>> 8000 fields and I'm ok as long as a single inserted row does not contain
>> more
>> than 8060 characters. Is this correct?|||Thanks everyone for the good information. I appreciate the feedback.
Brian
"Kalen Delaney" wrote:
> Brian
> But be aware that SQL Server 2005 row_overflow data only applies to variable
> length fields.
> You cannot have multiple char(8000) columns, for example.
> --
> HTH
> Kalen Delaney, SQL Server MVP
> www.solidqualitylearning.com
>
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
> message news:ecx6jdYXGHA.4132@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Correct. And, btw, this restriction has been removed in SQL Server 2005
> > ("page overflow").
> >
> > --
> > Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> > http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> > http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
> > Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
> >
> >
> > "Brian P" <BrianP@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:4AA95B81-5246-470E-A270-11810106F346@.microsoft.com...
> >> Thank you for the information. So I can have a table with numerous
> >> varchar
> >> 8000 fields and I'm ok as long as a single inserted row does not contain
> >> more
> >> than 8060 characters. Is this correct?
> >>
>
>

Maximum row size for SQLExpress

I was just wondering if SQLExpress will have the same maximum row size
funcationality as SQL Server 2005. (being able to have a single row go
accross multiple pages and allow the entire row to exceed 8060 bytes)?
Thanks,
John Scott.
Hi
8060 applies. If you use the new datatypes NVARCHAR(max) and VARCHAR(max),
those data types get sliced up the SQL Server itself across multiple pages.
Regards
Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland
IM: mike@.epprecht.net
MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/
"John Scott" <johnscott@.despammed.com> wrote in message
news:08F62DEB-4D56-4E0F-8560-403B46F513B0@.microsoft.com...
>I was just wondering if SQLExpress will have the same maximum row size
> funcationality as SQL Server 2005. (being able to have a single row go
> accross multiple pages and allow the entire row to exceed 8060 bytes)?
>
> Thanks,
> John Scott.
|||Yes, Express has the extended row size functionality introduced in SQL
Server 2005.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
"John Scott" <johnscott@.despammed.com> wrote in message
news:08F62DEB-4D56-4E0F-8560-403B46F513B0@.microsoft.com...
>I was just wondering if SQLExpress will have the same maximum row size
> funcationality as SQL Server 2005. (being able to have a single row go
> accross multiple pages and allow the entire row to exceed 8060 bytes)?
>
> Thanks,
> John Scott.

maximum row size exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060

Hi,
I have created a table (say Table1) with few columns, with one of the
columns (say column1) having the data type as Varchar(8000).
Now I run the below query -
BEGIN TRANSACTION
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
SET TRANSACTION ISOLATION LEVEL SERIALIZABLE
SET ARITHABORT ON
SET NUMERIC_ROUNDABORT OFF
SET CONCAT_NULL_YIELDS_NULL ON
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
SET ANSI_PADDING ON
SET ANSI_WARNINGS ON
COMMIT
BEGIN TRANSACTION
if not exists (select * from dbo.syscolumns
where id = object_id(N'[dbo].[Table1]')
and OBJECTPROPERTY(id, N'IsUserTable') = 1
and name = 'Column1')
ALTER TABLE dbo.Table1 ADD
Column1 varchar(500) NULL
GO
COMMIT
Now that the column Column1 already exists, the add column statement won't
be executed. But still I get the warning -
"Warning: The table 'Table1' has been created but its maximum row size
(8579) exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060). INSERT or UPDATE
of a row in this table will fail if the resulting row length exceeds 8060
bytes."
My question is, now that the column already exists, the statement itself
won't be executed. Then why do I still get this warning?That has to do with the sequence of query processing and when the warning is generated. Obviously
the warning (the fact that this table will have a row size for which you can exceed the limit in
your data) is generated in a stage which is earlier than when the statements are actually executed.
In other words, the If statement haven't been executed at this stage.
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"swap@.@.@." <swap@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:73AC8FFC-4041-4B22-AB25-4CCDB94598FC@.microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> I have created a table (say Table1) with few columns, with one of the
> columns (say column1) having the data type as Varchar(8000).
> Now I run the below query -
> BEGIN TRANSACTION
> SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
> SET TRANSACTION ISOLATION LEVEL SERIALIZABLE
> SET ARITHABORT ON
> SET NUMERIC_ROUNDABORT OFF
> SET CONCAT_NULL_YIELDS_NULL ON
> SET ANSI_NULLS ON
> SET ANSI_PADDING ON
> SET ANSI_WARNINGS ON
> COMMIT
> BEGIN TRANSACTION
> if not exists (select * from dbo.syscolumns
> where id = object_id(N'[dbo].[Table1]')
> and OBJECTPROPERTY(id, N'IsUserTable') = 1
> and name = 'Column1')
> ALTER TABLE dbo.Table1 ADD
> Column1 varchar(500) NULL
> GO
> COMMIT
> Now that the column Column1 already exists, the add column statement won't
> be executed. But still I get the warning -
> "Warning: The table 'Table1' has been created but its maximum row size
> (8579) exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060). INSERT or UPDATE
> of a row in this table will fail if the resulting row length exceeds 8060
> bytes."
> My question is, now that the column already exists, the statement itself
> won't be executed. Then why do I still get this warning?
>

maximum row size exceeds

hi,
I receive following Warning can any one tell me why this is occurs and how
can I eliminate it.
Warning: The table 'Part_Tags' has been created but its maximum row size
(14647) exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060). INSERT or UPDATE
of a row in this table will fail if the resulting row length exceeds 8060
bytes.
Farhan Iqbal
On Mon, 24 May 2004 02:52:29 -0700, Farhan Iqbal wrote:

>hi,
>I receive following Warning can any one tell me why this is occurs and how
>can I eliminate it.
>
>Warning: The table 'Part_Tags' has been created but its maximum row size
>(14647) exceeds the maximum number of bytes per row (8060). INSERT or UPDATE
>of a row in this table will fail if the resulting row length exceeds 8060
>bytes.
>
>Farhan Iqbal
>
Hi Farhan,
Your table definition includes at least one, probably more varchar,
nvarchar of varbinary columns. The theoretic maximum number of bytes in a
row, if all these columns are filled with the maximum length for that
column, is 14,647 bytes. The minimum length (is all varying length columns
are length zero) is below 8,060 bytes.
This is a warning message, there is no error -yet! But as soon as you try
to insert values into the table that make the total length of one row
exceed 8,060 bytes, you will get an error. SQL Server can't handle rows
that exceed 8,060 bytes of data.
Simple repro script to try it for yourself:
-- this will yield a warning similar to the one above,
-- but the table will be created.
create table testit(pk int not null primary key,
vc1 varchar(6000) not null,
vc2 varchar(6000) not null)
go
-- total length < 8,060 - no error
insert testit (pk, vc1, vc2)
select 1, replicate ('x', 3000), replicate ('y', 3000)
go
-- total length > 8,060 - error and insert rejeected
insert testit (pk, vc1, vc2)
select 2, replicate ('x', 6000), replicate ('y', 6000)
go
-- check that only first row was inserted
select * from testit
go
-- growing data beyond 8,060 bytes fails as well
update testit
set vc1 = replicate ('z', 6000)
where pk = 1
go
-- check that row was not updated
select * from testit
go
-- cleanup
drop table testit
go
Best, Hugo
(Remove _NO_ and _SPAM_ to get my e-mail address)
|||Simply change design of your table to mark column as text

Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded ?

Hi,
Im using VB6 to return values in an SQL 2000 table and get the following
error:
Error in ScrollBox.refresh
Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded
17713 rows have not been displayed
Does anyone know if this problem is related to SQL 2000 table limitations or
is it VB based ?
Thanks for any information.
Scott.
Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded ?
scott
VB's issue
"scott" <nospamscott@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uEucDictEHA.2124@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> Im using VB6 to return values in an SQL 2000 table and get the following
> error:
> Error in ScrollBox.refresh
> Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded
> 17713 rows have not been displayed
> Does anyone know if this problem is related to SQL 2000 table limitations
or
> is it VB based ?
> Thanks for any information.
> Scott.
> Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded ?
>
>
|||cheers

Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded ?

Hi,
Im using VB6 to return values in an SQL 2000 table and get the following
error:
Error in ScrollBox.refresh
Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded
17713 rows have not been displayed
Does anyone know if this problem is related to SQL 2000 table limitations or
is it VB based ?
Thanks for any information.
Scott.
Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded ?scott
VB's issue
"scott" <nospamscott@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uEucDictEHA.2124@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> Im using VB6 to return values in an SQL 2000 table and get the following
> error:
> Error in ScrollBox.refresh
> Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded
> 17713 rows have not been displayed
> Does anyone know if this problem is related to SQL 2000 table limitations
or
> is it VB based ?
> Thanks for any information.
> Scott.
> Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded ?
>
>|||cheers

Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded ?

Hi,
Im using VB6 to return values in an SQL 2000 table and get the following
error:
Error in ScrollBox.refresh
Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded
17713 rows have not been displayed
Does anyone know if this problem is related to SQL 2000 table limitations or
is it VB based ?
Thanks for any information.
Scott.
Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded ?scott
VB's issue
"scott" <nospamscott@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uEucDictEHA.2124@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> Im using VB6 to return values in an SQL 2000 table and get the following
> error:
> Error in ScrollBox.refresh
> Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded
> 17713 rows have not been displayed
> Does anyone know if this problem is related to SQL 2000 table limitations
or
> is it VB based ?
> Thanks for any information.
> Scott.
> Maximum row count of 50389 exceeded ?
>
>|||cheers

Maximum Record (Row) lenght?

I could not find how to visualize the record lenght of a
table in SQL Server Ent. Manager. Is there a way?
Is it true that the record lenght for a single table
cannot exceed 8086 bytes in SQL Sever?
THANK YOU!
DDursun (anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com) writes:
> I could not find how to visualize the record lenght of a
> table in SQL Server Ent. Manager. Is there a way?
I have never seen any information on this, but I have not looked for it
either, and I use EM sparingly.
> Is it true that the record lenght for a single table
> cannot exceed 8086 bytes in SQL Sever?
Yes. The exception is if you use text, ntext or image columns. These
datatypes can accomdate up to 2GB for a single value. But they are
not stored within the row, but in a spoce of their own.
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, sommar@.algonet.se
Books Online for SQL Server SP3 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techinfo/productdoc/2000/books.asp|||Hi Dursun,
For in-depth information follow the links
http://www.sql-server-
performance.com/ac_65_data_structure.asp ( for SQL Server
6.5)
http://www.sqlmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=4885 (
for SQL Server 7.0).
Best Regards
Chip
>--Original Message--
>Dursun (anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com) writes:
>> I could not find how to visualize the record lenght of
a
>> table in SQL Server Ent. Manager. Is there a way?
>I have never seen any information on this, but I have not
looked for it
>either, and I use EM sparingly.
>> Is it true that the record lenght for a single table
>> cannot exceed 8086 bytes in SQL Sever?
>Yes. The exception is if you use text, ntext or image
columns. These
>datatypes can accomdate up to 2GB for a single value. But
they are
>not stored within the row, but in a spoce of their own.
>
>--
>Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, sommar@.algonet.se
>Books Online for SQL Server SP3 at
>http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techinfo/productdoc/2000/book
s.asp
>.
>

Friday, March 9, 2012

maximum limit on results

Is there a maximum limit on results returned? I didn't think so, but I'm
seeing only ~3000 rows of a 100,000+ row table in my report.Sorry, answered my own question. I was confusing pages and # of results.
Still, is there an upper limit? I cannot find any other documentation
besides 4 MB is an upper limit on report size.|||There is no limit on the number of rows per dataset or on the number of
datasets per report. However, you should consider that datasets with many
rows will need more processing time and reports with complex layouts and
many pages more rendering time.
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"Andy S." <andymcdba1@.nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%239t$dUcwEHA.1308@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Sorry, answered my own question. I was confusing pages and # of results.
> Still, is there an upper limit? I cannot find any other documentation
> besides 4 MB is an upper limit on report size.
>